DBWS - 2-30 Fear Of Fear with Ben Crum of Great Lakes On this episode, we sit down with Ben Crum of Great Lakes to talk about the band’s beautiful and deeply personal new record, Fear of the Fear. A semi-concept album inspired by the loss of a close friend, Fear of the Fear explores grief, memory, friendship, and all the complicated emotions that come with losing someone important. Interestingly, the album was actually recorded before Great Lakes’ last record Don't Swim To Close, making its long-awaited arrival feel even more special. This episode has some really amazing E6 stories including some fun ones about the great Belle and Sebastian and Alex Chilton of Big Star.